I assign this podcast to my Sociology 101 students, this very episode. It helps understand a few things, and also, it’s a good conversation starter about intersectionality, class, race, — see, I was raised working class white but, — the explanation that these folks feel slighted so they voted for Trump out of anger, etc. — does not really cover it well for me, — it’s racism, pure and simple, — they voted for Trump out of racism and out of being duped: instead of forming class solidarity across race, — aka looking at the economic situation of almost all of us in the 99%, a too larger percentage of working class/working poor whites were motivated by their racism — and that shows in the support for Trump even today, all of his policies, words, actions, he has a loyal fan base of flat out racist folks who really want to believe somehow that being racist is going to somehow change their economic situation, despite NO policy changes that address the needs of the working poor or working class in America, — somehow they think racism will save them, — and this is the problem, for them and for the nation: racism won’t save them, but it sure will allow them to be used as pawns to support fascism and concentration camps, and so on. Thanks for writing this and summarizing it and also your own reflections. I have a lot of pieces on race, racism, oppression, and social justice on my page — stop by? :)